Why (some) over 65’s shouldn’t vote / should die

Did you know that 58% of over 65’s voted for the Conservatives in the most recent general election, rising to 69% for the over 70’s? That is, 69% of the population who have only a few years left to live took a look at the current dreadful state of the world and decided, ‘fuck this, fuck the young, and fuck the future, I’m going to make sure that MY last few years are as good as possible for ME’.

It is absurd in the extreme that human beings, many of whom will be dead within 10 / 20 years, are allowed to have their personal selfish desires and (frequently) outdated and wrong ideas determine what kind of world the younger generations will inherit.

These are the same older generations responsible (either through compliance or apathy) for rampant environmental destruction, ongoing poverty and inequality, and numerous ongoing conflicts around the world that have killed and maimed countless fellow human beings. So, any notion that these older generations are somehow older and wiser is an utter nonsense… although, in fairness, it is quite smart to set up a system that allows you to live the good life for your whole life, only to die just before you experience the dire consequences of said system.

Actually, this is kinda pretty.

The future of the country and the planet exists in the minds of the young, and it is the role of the older generations to nurture the ideas and minds of the young, to help them to refine and understand their instincts and thoughts, and to contribute nuance and insight that is only gained through life experience and on-going education… it is not the role of the older generations to determine what future the young will have by voting for their own selfish, destructive wants and desires.

What we need now from the older generations is sacrifice. You’ve had your fun and you’ve fucked us over, but, before you go rot in red felt, why not put aside what is good for you (you can live and die without the holiday in the Cotswold, but we will let you keep the heating on… unless you’re already old and poor, of course, in which case, keep calm and carry on!) and use whatever useful attributes you have to help the young create a better world?

The fact is that, the young cannot do this alone. Ideas and attitudes are not enough. The passion of the young for a better world is wonderful, but it must be reinforced and tempered by an understanding of just how complex and difficult the world is… this is not to rebuke their enthusiasm and knock them down, but to refine it into something potent, profound, and truly world changing.

Sacrifice is noble.

The young are, of course, naïve, ill-informed, and, frequently, embarrassingly dumb (well, at least I was, and perhaps still am)… but they CARE – I care – and that care is what the world needs so, so, so fucking badly. It is your job to help to turn that care into true compassion, and meaningful, effective action. Because, otherwise, we really, really could be done for as a species.

I know you’re nearly dead and all, but, do you really want to merrily skip off this mortal coil leaving this world behind for your children? If, in this world, and, if, in this general election, you are voting for what is good for you (Vote Tory!), then so much better that you die than inflict your petty, selfish and harmful want for shinier, faster things and comfier perches onto the shoulders of generations yet to even be born.

If, however, you are 65+ and you do care – and I know that there are many, including, of  course, Jeremy Corbyn, Bernie Sanders etc. – then don’t vote for your pension and your holiday budget, but, rather, for what is good for all. And, most importantly, vote for what is good for all those with their whole lives ahead of them. And, even more importantly, help the young. They / we (I’m 34 so I’m not sure I count.. it’s a weird age, I’m sure I’m old but I’m reassured that I’m not quite there yet) need what you have, and that is the appreciation and experience of nuance that runs through every facet of life that, otherwise, can only be appreciated and understood by getting old… Educate us!

‘Grandpa, please don’t fuck me in the proverbial ass’

So, please, share! Help! But share to help refine their ideas, not to inflict your own, because – now soak this up good – the young do not care what you think. And do you know why? Because the young see the world afresh. The young are not conditioned and surrendered to the bullshit yet. And the young – inexperienced and naïve as they might be – know full well that the bullshit that is rampant is the bullshit of your making.

So, share and be humble. Don’t even begin to pretend you’ve seen it all and you know best, because, one brief glimpse of the world as it is, is enough for all the young minds to explicitly know that you had no idea what the fuck you were doing, and no amount of old age, life experience and respect for your elders has done anything to save you, your children, or our planet, from the looming disasters of your ignorance and your greed.

Get your shit together!

You have no idea how much we need you.


Care about us.


  1. simonkohli33

    I don’t agree. The older generation have a greater perspective and more experience. They’ve lived through the changes and seen the results of past decisions. Whereas many of the younger generation weren’t even born. You make the assumption that all older people will vote with selfish interests and outdated ideas. Who’s to say all the ‘new’ ideas are good? Who’s to say they’ll vote out of selfish desires?

    Elders should be naturally respected in human communities (in fact, in natural human tribes they are respected). They have lived through the different stages of life and have matured. Young people, say, below the age of 30, are probably more selfish, naive and less able to make mature, balanced and reasoned decisions.

    I don’t think it’s about determining the future. It’s about making rational decisions based on experience and wisdom. There is bound to be more wisdom and experience in the older generation.

    It’s like the EU Ref. Many younger people bemoan the result and believe that somehow their future has been destroyed. Yet, some of them I’ve spoken to sniff cocaine and binge drink at the weekends and spend most of their time glued to mobile phones. ‘If you care so much about your future, do you think this behaviour is wise?’ I ask them.

    So I’m glad the older generation stepped up to the plate in the EU ref. They have a greater perspective. They remember the original 1975 ref., and can see how it panned out and whether it lived up to the promises.

    Don’t get me wrong. Many older people are stuck in their ways and firmly rooted in the establishment. But young people, from what I see, are just as conventional, just as unquestioning.

    Your judgement of old people is actually very harsh and lacks compassion. Many older people lived through very hard times, times you can only imagine. My nan lived her first 6 years of life hiding in bomb shelters, living on rations. Compare that to your first years.

    Try a little more compassion and understanding. After all, isn’t that what you preach?


    1. themindatrisk

      No. I don’t preach anything. I share some view points to – hopefully – provoke discussion. The clue is in the name of the blog. I don’t know what I’m talking about, but if it makes people think, question, challenge me / themselves / society then it will serve a useful purpose.


      1. Annette

        Despite the comment at the end, I find this deeply offensive. The implication is that almost everyone over 60 will vote Tory. I will be 70 in October and many of my friends agree with me that for the well being of our future, our children, grandchildren and the whole of the UK. JC4PM!!!!!!!


      2. themindatrisk

        The implication isn’t that everyone will at all! The very first thing stated is the fact that 64% will… bad enough! And a huge part of why May remains prime minister. You don’t need to take offence at all, but there are many, many of the older generations who vote for what is good for them… even at the cost of younger generations and our very planet. It might not be nice to hear / read, but it needs to be said.


  2. Sheila Ellix

    The photograph shown in your article depicts a dead old person. I’m if the firm belief that dead people are indeed excluded from voting. I, who have voted in every election since the age of 18 would chain myself to railings in order to keep that right. How dare you suggest that I should not. My democratic right to vote has been very hard won and I will NOT give it up.


  3. bonnie

    Good grief,the current generation are so bloody stupid and selfish, the world wouldn’t last two years. They have never had to survive by their wits or think for themselves so when they finally cause the next war,, they will grab their teddies and run for the hills wher they will wish their grannies were there to tell them what to do.

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  4. got2see

    My grandson not old enough to vote yet would disagree – we have common interests & I consider his views about the future – I am not an old stick in the mud bigot so don’t try pigeon holing me & my generation.
    Am I supposed to live possibly 30 more years based on the likes of your distorted view of society.
    Families work as a team – there is not an age divide as we are only as strong as the weakest link & that isn’t me OK


    1. themindatrisk

      The key word being ‘some’. I am sure you are a wonderful human being who has done all they can to help others and the world. However, the state of the world is not an accident, but the result of human activity (and inactivity), especially that of elder generations.


      1. got2see

        I am not alone.
        just because some Tories have selfishly pursued selfish policies doesn’t have any bearing on my generation who have looked after Children, Grandchildren, Ageing Parents, kept Voluntary Services & Charities working, worked & Paid Taxes without claiming Benefits, voted for Socialism, Marched to save the Rainforests & the Environment, I suggest you look at the activities of the Older Generation before making an uninformed opinion which doesn’t appear tp tally with reality.
        May I ask what you have done for the World so far?


      2. themindatrisk

        Then the article isn’t addressed to you! The title states ‘some’ and the first sentence quotes the statistic of 64%… so no need for offence! It sounds like you have contributed in a very positive way to the world and that without the efforts of people like yourself then our world would be in a much worse state.


  5. Simone Eggar

    What about the young Tory voter who thinks it is an ‘I’m alright Jack’ world and blow to the rest of humanity. To even contemplate writing an article such as this is repulsive and shows very little understanding of the world. Every generation has good things and bad within them and to try and silence those you may not be in agreement with would be the worst thing any generation could ever undertake!!!!!


    1. themindatrisk

      Of course, all greedy self interest is unhelpful. However, the statistics are clear… the younger the generation, the more likely they are to vote Labour, and the older the generation, the more likely to vote Tory. This is the point being addressed. The article title states ‘some’ and the last line addresses those over 65 who voted for Corbyn. I know that not all over 65s are selfish… Corbyn is nearly 70! However, the fact that 64% vote Tory is something that needs to be addressed, and if that means provocation then so be it. The world needs us all to wake up. If it is upsetting to be challenged then that’s the price that will be paid.


  6. catherine white

    you say in your letter that your dumb,how i agree,the world is for living regardless of age ,we cant help if we are old we certalnly did not plan it,maybe the young sees us old biddies but i doubt after all they are human as well,we learn new things from the young,but we give our experiance and our life history to them which iassume they enjoy,so sorry go and get alife yourself or at least listen to our youngsters


    1. themindatrisk

      It would be better for us all if the world was for giving and sharing, rather than simply ‘living’. I’d rather die tomorrow having done some good in the world than live to 100 having lived purely for my own pleasure.


  7. got2see

    Perhaps you just want to trigger the debate about the subject but it isn’t helpful to segregate the age groups – as Jeremy Corbyn always says – we should all come together – Old Young Rich Poor Black White etc ….


    1. themindatrisk

      It is very easy to say that we should all come together, but never in the history of humanity has it been achieved. Progress has always been attained through the relentless challenging of injustice, and it is usually those who are most offended who have the most to feel insecure about. I think there are a lot of angry people reacting to this article who, deep down, see the world turning to shit knowing that they have not done enough to help. So, yes, I want to trigger the debate, and given the urgency of our world situation, it is most likely going to take some shocking words to get that debate going. I’m sorry if this upsets people, but better you get upset and start to really think about these things than me tickle your tummy and you continue in comfort whilst the world falls apart. You as much as anyone can make a difference, in whatever time you have left on this planet. Use each moment wisely. You don’t need to justify your existence to me or anyone else, but you do need to justify it to yourself. I don’t think you want to leave this planet seeing the mess the children have inherited and knowing you could have done so, so much more.


  8. Katie Simpson

    I’m 29, I paid for tuition fees, I’ve barely earned over minimum wage, I have worked zero hour contracts and without my better off half I would never stand a chance of owning a home. However; There is no room for ageism on the left. The older generation did not “fuck us over.” If you think the 65+ are to blame for our problems then you are a moron. Previous generations are why I can vote, they fought for trade union membership which most young people don’t even take advantage of. They fought for us to have an NHS and to have a welfare state. They fought against fascism in WW2! The older generation are not to blame for the failings of capitalism! The older generation are not to blame for the Labour party being a massive let down for decades after the 1950s. The older generation are not to blame for being bombarded with propaganda that uses fear among all else to try to control the masses. The older generation are actually leading the struggle for socialism across the country. I think you should bare in mind that Corbyn is 68!

    Now delete this ageist crap and stop being a stain on the left.


    1. themindatrisk

      Yet 64% of over 65’s voted for the Tories, effectively voting in self interest at the expense of younger generations and our planet. Obviously it is not as black and white as that, however, it would be remiss to observe the current state of our planet and deny responsibility to those who either, 1. Participated and contributed to our many, severe ills, or 2. Did not do enough to challenge them. Life is very difficult… doing good and making a true difference is very difficult indeed, but we live in a time where we could destroy a whole planet with nuclear bombs, or weaken the environment so drastically that future generations live in horrendous circumstances… these are very real possibilities, and much more serious than our actions would have us believe. If we do not have the courage to question and challenge how things are then we could find ourselves in an almost unimaginably dire situation… or, even worse, we get a pass and leave it to our children and all future generations to come to suffer. This, to me, is not acceptable. I am happy to provoke, to push, to upset, and to offend – not out of some deluded belief that it will make a difference – but just to get people thinking and discussing a little bit more, from which maybe some change can occur. I suspect that those who take most offence to these words are those who consciences are somewhat pricked… how can anyone of any generation look upon the horrors of our world and not feel deeply ashamed about our negligence and apathy towards our fellow human beings? 22,000 children under the age of five die every day because of poverty, whilst we fret about holiday bookings and lattes. So, whether I am right or wrong, what I will not do is shut up. All I can hope for is that I become as effective a tool as possible in helping to create a better world. Thanks for your comment.


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